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Microsoft Office 2016 High Sierra
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Microsoft Office 2016 For Mac High Sierra
Hi everyone, I have an iMac 2017 4K 21' with 1To FusionDrive and High Sierra 10.13.4. Each program of Microsoft Office 2016 (Word, Excel, PowerPoint, v16.13) are very slow (around 30s) to start up. Office 2016 for Mac is fully supported on High Sierra. For the best experience, we recommend you update Office to version 15.38 or later. For updates regarding macOS 10.14 Mojave, see Microsoft Office support for macOS 10.14 Mojave. As of September 25, 2017, mac OS 10.13 High Sierra is publically available for all Mac users to install.
- I wonder how much of this because there are just plenty of bugs that need to be worked out of High Sierra versus it being a major change that will require developers to update their apps. I hope it's the former. I have plenty of old apps that still work fine on Sierra that I have no particular interest in upgrading.
- The problem lies with Microsoft and their Xamarin junk that is used as middleware layer. Propper written native apps wont have any issues.
While I can't speak to Grimzahn's Xamarin suggestion, the way this is going to work is the way it's always worked. If you adhere to Apple's guidelines, you're set for a while.I wonder how much of this because there are just plenty of bugs that need to be worked out of High Sierra versus it being a major change that will require developers to update their apps. I hope it's the former. I have plenty of old apps that still work fine on Sierra that I have no particular interest in upgrading.If you play fast and loose, like MS, then you're going to have a hard time.- Increasingly hard to find people who still use Office.
- Increasingly hard to find people who still use Office.
Seriously? I would say exactly the opposite. My daughter took a computer science class and the professor expected the kids to turn their programs in as Word documents. I suggested that she should probably just turn in text files (to avoid the possibility of autocorrect or other nonsense) and she said he specifically said he wanted them as Word. Now that's an extreme example, but, in my experience, from K-12 through to business, the expected document formats are Word, Excel, and PowerPoint. Maybe there is some niche that can get by on Google docs or some such alternative, but that's a niche.
I remember that Office 2008 often had to be patched on new OS releases (twice).... I still had a working copy, but decided to retire it for Pages/Numbers and Libre Office (for some documents from a customer). Getting a new license of Office -- was just not worth it....
While I can't speak to Grimzahn's Xamarin suggestion, the way this is going to work is the way it's always worked. If you adhere to Apple's guidelines, you're set for a while.I wonder how much of this because there are just plenty of bugs that need to be worked out of High Sierra versus it being a major change that will require developers to update their apps. I hope it's the former. I have plenty of old apps that still work fine on Sierra that I have no particular interest in upgrading.If you play fast and loose, like MS, then you're going to have a hard time.
You must have trouble finding people. MS Office is ubiquitous.Increasingly hard to find people who still use Office.
I always publish my documents as PDFs (which is internally supported on macOS).... though when I send them I don't expect them to be modified. The professor should accept PDFs IMHO -- since it is the most widely supported standard for publishing documents - and he should not need to edit them.Increasingly hard to find people who still use Office.
Seriously? I would say exactly the opposite. My daughter took a computer science class and the professor expected the kids to turn their programs in as Word documents. I suggested that she should probably just turn in text files (to avoid the possibility of autocorrect or other nonsense) and she said he specifically said he wanted them as Word. Now that's an extreme example, but, in my experience, from K-12 through to business, the expected document formats are Word, Excel, and PowerPoint. Maybe there is some niche that can get by on Google docs or some such alternative, but that's a niche.- edited June 2017
The reason this is happening is because the school's administrators are (forced to) use Microsoft products because all the infrastructure systems require it. Administrators could care less about the students as long as they get paid. Word is absolutely a stupid way to submit any kind of program submission. Unformatted text (using something like BBEdit) has always been the best way to submit coding since it isn't screwed up my formatting used in any kind of page layout system. I can't see anyone using Pages to submit programs to a professor. Microsoft products are never the best products in any of the areas they sell in but that never matters because corporations and our silly government has too much invested in Microsoft to change for anything better.Increasingly hard to find people who still use Office.
Seriously? I would say exactly the opposite. My daughter took a computer science class and the professor expected the kids to turn their programs in as Word documents. I suggested that she should probably just turn in text files (to avoid the possibility of autocorrect or other nonsense) and she said he specifically said he wanted them as Word. Now that's an extreme example, but, in my experience, from K-12 through to business, the expected document formats are Word, Excel, and PowerPoint. Maybe there is some niche that can get by on Google docs or some such alternative, but that's a niche.
As for Microsoft having issues with they crappy software running under any Apple OS, it's always been this way and will never improve. People forced to use Microsoft Office products will just have to wait until Microsoft figures things out and delivers another half-a** product. Things never change with Microsoft no matter who's in charge.
disclaimer: I've had to fight Microsoft since the early 90's and the current issue is typical.
Here we go again. Apple is not allowed to update or upgrade its operating system unless it remains compatible with third party software? That’s not how it works.I wonder how much of this because there are just plenty of bugs that need to be worked out of High Sierra versus it being a major change that will require developers to update their apps. I hope it's the former. I have plenty of old apps that still work fine on Sierra that I have no particular interest in upgrading.
As a college professor, it's my job to edit student writing. When I have to grade 500 pages of student papers in less than a week at the end of a semester, inserting comments in PDFs is abjectly inefficient. MS Word and insert comments using TextExpander and voice dictation is the most effective way for me to be productive.I always publish my documents as PDFs (which is internally supported on macOS).... though when I send them I don't expect them to be modified. The professor should accept PDFs IMHO -- since it is the most widely supported standard for publishing documents - and he should not need to edit them.
Next year you will discover the joy and convenience of pencil editing a PDF file on an iPad Pro and be all over MS Word...As a college professor, it's my job to edit student writing. When I have to grade 500 pages of student papers in less than a week at the end of a semester, inserting comments in PDFs is abjectly inefficient. MS Word and insert comments using TextExpander and voice dictation is the most effective way for me to be productive.
Here we go again. Apple is not allowed to update or upgrade its operating system unless it remains compatible with third party software? That’s not how it works.I wonder how much of this because there are just plenty of bugs that need to be worked out of High Sierra versus it being a major change that will require developers to update their apps. I hope it's the former. I have plenty of old apps that still work fine on Sierra that I have no particular interest in upgrading.
Don't put words in my mouth. Should Apple obsess about ensuring every bit of legacy software works on every future version of Mac OS? Of course not. On the other hand, it is a bummer as a consumer when legacy software stops working. If it's just my old copy of Office 2008 that stops working in High Sierra, I can live with that. If half the programs I try to run give me errors after I upgrade to HS, that won't give me a very positive experience. I think Apple does an excellent job on backwards compatibility myself, and I hope that history continues this time around.
I didn't realize a college professor edits student writings, you should only be making comments. It's the student's writing not yours.
As a college professor, it's my job to edit student writing. When I have to grade 500 pages of student papers in less than a week at the end of a semester, inserting comments in PDFs is abjectly inefficient. MS Word and insert comments using TextExpander and voice dictation is the most effective way for me to be productive.I always publish my documents as PDFs (which is internally supported on macOS).... though when I send them I don't expect them to be modified. The professor should accept PDFs IMHO -- since it is the most widely supported standard for publishing documents - and he should not need to edit them.- Presumably Microsoft will get around to updating Office 2016. I'll have to wait to upgrade to High Sierra until that happens.
The thing that sucks for me about losing Office 2011 is that Office 2016 never gained support for MathType from Design Science.
You think you might be a trifling arrogant telling a college professor how to teach?
I didn't realize a college professor edits student writings, you should only be making comments. It's the student's writing not yours.
As a college professor, it's my job to edit student writing. When I have to grade 500 pages of student papers in less than a week at the end of a semester, inserting comments in PDFs is abjectly inefficient. MS Word and insert comments using TextExpander and voice dictation is the most effective way for me to be productive.I always publish my documents as PDFs (which is internally supported on macOS).... though when I send them I don't expect them to be modified. The professor should accept PDFs IMHO -- since it is the most widely supported standard for publishing documents - and he should not need to edit them.
The college professor is right, at least in my limited experience, on the difficulty of editing PDFs. iOS 11 should help. I'm looking forward to the time when an iPad can be used as an input device to a Mac.- edited June 2017
Another data point: my youngest just graduated high school, oldest in college. Both in private schools where Office docs are not permitted - it's 100% Google docs, unless output is something non-doc like video, illustrations or physical objects. The only exception is the Adobe suite.randominternetperson said:
Seriously? I would say exactly the opposite. My daughter took a computer science class and the professor expected the kids to turn their programs in as Word documents. ...Maybe there is some niche that can get by on Google docs or some such alternative, but that's a niche.
And where do you work? Every shop I go to uses Office. It's still the deFacto standard office suite used by businesses. Sure, I see folks use GoogleDocs here and there, but it's more because it's free than it actually being any good.Increasingly hard to find people who still use Office.
Microsoft made huge strides in Office365 on the Mac. It's on par with the Windows version finally.
Office 2011 was horrible in every way. I purchased it back in the day to get away from Windows, but couldn't wean off of it because of Office. Now, with Office365 on the Mac and stable, I rarely have to ever get into Windows. Microsoft is finally opening its eyes on non-windows systems like MacOS and iOS.
The reason this is happening is because the school's administrators are (forced to) use Microsoft products because all the infrastructure systems require it. Administrators could care less about the students as long as they get paid. Word is absolutely a stupid way to submit any kind of program submission. Unformatted text (using something like BBEdit) has always been the best way to submit coding since it isn't screwed up my formatting used in any kind of page layout system. I can't see anyone using Pages to submit programs to a professor. Microsoft products are never the best products in any of the areas they sell in but that never matters because corporations and our silly government has too much invested in Microsoft to change for anything better.Increasingly hard to find people who still use Office.
Seriously? I would say exactly the opposite. My daughter took a computer science class and the professor expected the kids to turn their programs in as Word documents. I suggested that she should probably just turn in text files (to avoid the possibility of autocorrect or other nonsense) and she said he specifically said he wanted them as Word. Now that's an extreme example, but, in my experience, from K-12 through to business, the expected document formats are Word, Excel, and PowerPoint. Maybe there is some niche that can get by on Google docs or some such alternative, but that's a niche.
As for Microsoft having issues with they crappy software running under any Apple OS, it's always been this way and will never improve. People forced to use Microsoft Office products will just have to wait until Microsoft figures things out and delivers another half-a** product. Things never change with Microsoft no matter who's in charge.
disclaimer: I've had to fight Microsoft since the early 90's and the current issue is typical.
Have you even used Office365 on MacOS? Microsoft of today is NOT what it was under Bill Gates and MonkeyBoy Ballmer so let go of the 90's hate.
I've been using it since it came out years ago. Office365 of MacOS is finally on the same level as its Windows counterpart. It's stable, it runs great and thankfully, they keep it updated continuously. It's not the 'crappy software' running on MacOS. I'll say that Office 2011 was a steaming pile of horse manure which is was one of the reasons I continued to use Office for Windows. Now, that's all history. When I receive documents created in other suites, I cringe at it. They just don't polish their apps as nicely as Office.
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Microsoft Office 2016 Mac High Sierra
In the support document, published shortly after the reveal of High Sierra, Microsoft declares that while the Office 2016 suite of applications from unreleased version 15.35 and later do work, users will still have to endure problems while waiting for a future update. It's no suprise that of all the programs that don't work on the new MacOS High Sierra Beta, that Microsoft has some in that pile. I've found a way to make Mi. Microsoft Office 2016 - Unmistakably Office, designed for Mac. The new versions of Word, Excel, PowerPoint, Outlook, and OneNote provide the best of both worlds for Mac users - the familiar Office experience paired with the best of Mac. If you already use Office on a PC or iPad, you will find yourself right at home in Office 2016 for Mac.